Final Minutes of the CPEC Meeting
of September 11th, 2007
Mtg Called to order 6:33 PM
Scott introduces himself
Pledge of Allegiance is lead by David Oates
Roll:
Hasson - P
Thornton - P
Oates - P
Campbell - A
Hurst - P
Taylor - A
Mosher - A
Lazarro - A
Holtan - P
Getis - P
Battaglia - P
Myers - A
Jackson - P
All present members and guests introduced themselves.
Linda Kliener thanked Glenbourough for being such good neighbors.
Item 3: Non Agenda Comment - None
Item 4: Approval of Minutes - Changes incorporated by Judy
Moved to Approve with Judy's corrections - Joe, Second by Wayne - Passed 6-0-2.
Item 5: Brainstorming and Discussion
Question from Wayne - are we looking at the entire site, or just the right of way? Answer: we are looking at the whole site.
Linda J - Spreadsheet was confusing. Made through it, but something simpler would be nice.
Judy - Has a message from Jennifer Suder - Head librarian in Tierrasanta. Wants library removed from the list.
Move to Remove Library by Judy, Second by Donna.
Motion Discussion: Deanna reminds us that the library is in a great location now. Linda J wonders what the demographics are of the current library patrons. Judy says that it is packed after school with many students. David says that his concern is accessibility of a library for education vs. a centrally located Fire station. Linda K thinks we should removing the library in consistent with the charter of the committee, and would like to add something to the end of the survey showing the items that were removed. Neill wonders if the library and Fire Station can be rebuilt on the same site.
Question Called - Failed 1-5-2.
Motion to remove storage lite by David, Second by Joe
Motion Discussion: David points out that storage, no matter how small, is still inappropriate. Scott asks Kevin to introduce himself. Glenbourough is a developer in the San Francisco Bay Area. Specializes in core property that is stable and long term. They have local property managers Downtown. Kevin reiterates that the Tucker site is the gateway to TS, and it looks barren and abandoned with shrubs and wild growth. He feels that a tactful expansion of the research park is a good fit. Scott reminded Kevin that discussions of future projects must be referred to the CDC, and will not be discussed here. Scott thanks Kevin for his attendance. Neill wonders about the political ramifications, David reminds us that politics were not one of the criteria involved. Scott mentions that he had a meeting with Jim Madaffer’s office to see if Tucker could be settled with another piece of land or a cash settlement. Kevin asks if under the current settlement, if another developer can propose a project. Deanna mentions that they have a 55 year right to apply to develop.
Question Called - Passed 6-1-1
Motion to remove the dog park by Paula - Wayne Seconds
Motion Discussion: Deanna mentions that the city requirements for dog parks require a fence at least 4 feet and parking. Linda J mentions that if we had a dog park then the dogs wouldn't be in the mixed fields. Donna mentions that they could have bushes around the fence. The closest park is in Mira Mesa or Balboa Park.
Question Called - Passed 8-0-0
*** Lee Campbell Arrives at 7:33 PM ***
Eric Germain wonders if we can have dual use, such as Skate Park and Fire Station, or Community Center and Library.
Motion to remove the Skate Park by Neill, Judy Seconds
Motion Discussion: Linda J. says that the site they are looking at is behind the murphy canyon rec center, with the YMCA as administrators. Jim Madaffer seems to think that he can work with the Navy to get that site. Eric says that betting on the availability of Federal Property is a long shot. Kevin mentions that parking can be strained with dual use.
Question Called - Passed 9-0-0
Judy wants to know if community center meant teens and seniors. We decided to add teens to the spreadsheet, but it is not there. Linda K also wonders how the dual use would work with parking constraints. Joe thinks dual use can work with several items.
Deanna reminds us that there is only $1 million left in the community fund. David would like to have funding be a deciding factor. Deanna thinks that this means there is a better chance of commercial development vs. public funded.
David wants to make sure that the survey has the mention that open space is a possibility. We don't have to develop it just because it is vacant.
Linda K. thinks that the city approved the tucker site to get revenue.
Judy wants to know how the park and ride works.
Motion to approve all remaining List Items by David, Joe seconds.
Current List to be approved:
· Community Center
· Fire Station
· Library
· Developed Park
· Open Space
· Research Park
· Urgent Care
· Park and Ride
· Police/City Storefront
Motion Discussion: Lee is concerned that we are giving this list to the city council. We are going to present this list to the public. Deanna reminds us that the TT is delivered to city hall. They will see this list one way or another. Linda K. says that it might not be a bad idea to let the council see the list. Eric wants to point out that we still have commercial items on the list... why? Deanna says that it was part of the settlement. Scott says that the list is too long. He thinks we should only have 5 items.
Question is called - Fails 2-7-0
Motion to remove Urgent Care by Donna, Moves to remove urgent Care - Paula seconds
Question Called - Passed 9-0-0
Motion to remove Park and Ride by Donna - Second by David
Motion Discussion: Neill would like park and ride, Linda K would like park and ride due to lack of use at night and weekends, Linda J would like park and ride due to need
Question Called - Passed 6-2-1
Judy wonders what happened to the city storefront. Deanna says that police only come in to write reports. Community Service workers are the ones that man the office. However, the city budget will not support a community service center. Neill says that it does not need to be its own building.
Motion to remove Police/City storefront by David - Second by Judy
Motion Discussion: Deanna says that we should add the storefront to the community center.
Question Called - Passed 8-1-0
Motion to add the community storefront and police front to community center option - David seconds.
Motion Discussion veered into what parts of the land are up for discussion. Scott presents the overhead photos to show property boundaries.
Question Called - Passed 6-3-0
David wants to know if we were going to go over every item tonight.
Paula wants to know if we are going to re-think the list tonight.
Motion by David to end discussions on the list, with final vote on approval on the 25th - Paula seconds.
Motion Discussion: Kevin mentions that he will do his best to come to the next meeting, and says that several items on the list could be incorporated into a research park expansion. Lee wants to know what the difference of light industrial and restaurants. However, discussions on potential applications should not be held here.
Question Called - Passed 9-0-0
Final List from the nights deliberations:
· Community Center
· Fire Station
· Library
· Developed Park Land
· Open Space
· Research Park Expansion
Deanna reminds us that the deadline for the next TT is September 29th, one day after our next meeting.
Item 6 - Continued, no action
Item 7 - Continued, no action
Item 8 - David proposes a timeline for communication with the community. He asks for input from the committee, and this will be discussed at the next meeting. Linda K. will assist David.
Item 9 - None
Item 10 - Paula thanks Deanna Spehn for all of her hard work.
Item 11 - None
Homework - Work the list.
David moved to Adjourn - Second by Neill
Committee Adjourned at 8:37.